Thursday, October 15, 2009

Rebecca Read Along - Week 2 Discussion




I read Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier many years ago when I was 15 or 16. I fell in love with the creepy, sinister tone of the book, the beautiful writing and imagery, the lonely, insecure, and anxious to please narrator and second Mrs. de Winter, the stately and elegant Manderley and so much more. I read Rebecca every few years after that first time and each time I read it, I got something more out of the story. I saw Rebecca, the 1940 thriller by Hitchcock starring Laurence Olivier, Joan Fontaine and Judith Anderson as Mrs. Danvers, ten years ago and several more times ever since. The movie is very good and captures the foreboding atmosphere of the book quite well despite a change to one key scene.

Sandy of the blog You've GOTTA read this! hosted a read along of Rebecca and since I haven't read the book for several years I jumped at the chance and am thrilled that I did. I started reading a little late and wasn't able to get to the questions Sandy posed for the first half of the book but if I have a chance I hope to answer them in a day or two. I read many of the answers by the other readers and the scope of the answers, the different thoughts and the varied ideas raised are what makes read-a-longs such fun. It's wonderful to get a different perspective on a book than my own and to have the opportunity to consider characters, setting and themes from the viewpoint of others in the group.
I agree that this book was a very FUN read, Sandy. Thank you for organizing this read along! If you'd like to see a list of participants and the questions and answers, head on over to
You've GOTTA read this!

1. There is a drastic change in the second Mrs. de Winter (whom I will call DW2 from hereon) mid-way through the book. Talk about what caused the transformation. How did you feel about DW2 after this happened? DW2 is feeling the worst she's felt at Manderley after the fiasco with her dress the night of the dance . She thinks Maxim doesn't love her at all and was simply lonely and needed companionship. She believes her marriage is a failure. She walks outside while thinking things over and sees Mrs. Danvers watching her from Rebecca's room in the West Wing. She realizes that the dress fiasco was Mrs. Danvers and Rebecca's "triumph", that Mrs. Danvers had "meant it to happen". DW2 confronts Mrs. Danvers who says some very cruel things to DW2 and tells her how lovely Rebecca was, how wonderful, smart and talented she was. Mrs. Danvers tells DW2 that Maxim doesn't love her and she isn't wanted at Manderley and never should have come. Mrs. Danvers tries to talk DW2 into throwing herself out the window. They are interrupted by reports that a ship has gone ashore down in the cove.
DW2 doesn't see Maxim before he goes down to the cove, but she hears him calling for Firth and she suddenly feels less anxious and more relaxed because his voice sounds calm and practical, its the Maxim she loves. She also realizes that he didn't go away that he has been at Manderley all morning. Later on in the evening, when Maxim returns from helping with the ship and finds out that Rebecca's boat has been found, Maxim and DW2 have their first honest, heart-to-heart conversation and DW2 discovers that Maxim loves her completely and is in love with her . DW2 learns that Maxim never loved Rebecca and doesn't miss her. DW2 suddenly feel empowered, she's no longer intimidated, she feels sure of herself and knows and believes she can run Manderley. I was still a little
aggravated with DW2 because she didn't try and speak to Maxim about the things that were bothering her but assumed he loved Rebecca and wished she was still alive. But I'm happy for her that she finally knows the reality of the situation and knows she is loved by Maxim. It was great to see her no longer feeling intimidated by Mrs. Danvers and running the house in her own way.

2. Although it was not explicitly discussed, what do you think was the true nature of the relationship between Rebecca and Mrs. Danvers? I think that Mrs. Danvers was in love with Rebecca. She thought everything Rebecca said and did was wonderful and perfect whether she was as cruel as a person could be to someone or super sweet. At one point, Mrs Danvers says to DW2 that Rebecca should have been a boy, she did everything better than even the boys!. Mrs Danvers seemed to enjoy that most men doted on Rebecca yet she laughed at them all behind their backs. But Mrs. Danvers didn't seem to know everything about Rebecca, though she thinks she did. Mrs. Danvers didn't know, for instance, that Rebecca was having an affair with Jack Favell, her first cousin. I think Rebecca knew how Mrs. Danvers felt about her and she used that knowledge to keep Mrs. Danvers loyal. She manipulated Mrs. Danvers into believing she was Rebecca's sole confidante and favorite person in the world.

3. In the discussion questions last week, I asked how you felt about Maxim de Winter. Has your opinion changed? Why? I thought Maxim was awful to DW2 when she came downstairs in the white dress at the dance. Typically, his first reaction has to do with how he is affected. He's not concerned with DW2 and how she feels. He doesn't speak to her about the dress and ask her why she wore it. But he rarely asks DW2 about anything she says or does unless it is to criticize her. And when the topic of how angry he was with her when she came down in the dress, he kind of laughs it off as if it wasn't anything. Again, he has little concern for how DW2 feels or felt because he is feeling fine again (at least as regards that issue!)
I prefer Maxim after he confesses to DW2 what he did because he shows her the love she deserves and craves and he takes her into his confidence. He finally shows some concern for how DW2s feeling while she waits back at Manderley for him during the after noon of the inquest and he seems more attentive to DW2 in general. But Maxim still treats DW2 like a child, which I loathe and he's critical of her. He is self-absorbed and not very concerned with DW2 except when she is useful to him. His selfishness really shows when he continually says that she won't love him now that he has told her about Rebecca. He assumes he knows what DW2 thinks and feels without even asking her.

4. Were you satisfied with the ending? Did you have closure? Did you have to go back and re-read the beginning? I liked the ending. I don't care if all of the "i"s are dotted and the "t"s crossed. The ending is subtle but we know what happens to Manderley. I didn't feel the need for a blow-by-blow of the incident and what happened to each character. I didn't re-read the beginning but I did think about it. The first time I read the book I was pretty sure about what was going to happy at the end or close to the end because of DW2's dream and memories. Sometimes I wonder if Daphne du Maurier left the ending that way for a possible sequel.

5. If you could write the sequel to this book, how would you envision the lives of Maxim and DW2 after the story's end? Do you think they'll be happy together? I think their life together is at least content with moments, days of happiness. The pain of what happened at Manderley will always be with them but I think over time the pain and memories have retreated and they no longer talk about it or think much about those days. DW2 says that they are a united force and have no secrets from each other. My understanding is that her life with Maxim is a quiet one, with most days following a routine similar to the day before. I think they had a few difficult years and even now have some difficult, sad days but I also think that that's how most people's lives are.
In my sequel, DW2 and Maxim would have gone away for a few months like Colonel Julyan recommended, maybe to Switzerland!

6. How would you classify this novel? Love story? Ghost story? Tragedy? Murder mystery? Some have called "Rebecca" one of the greatest gothic romances of all time. Do you agree? I don't think this is one of the greatest gothic romances of all times but I do think it's a gothic romance because it's primarily a story about the marriage of Maxim and DW2, their life at Manderley and her adjustment to both.. There is some aspect of mystery to the book, though I use that term loosely because for three-quarters of the story there isn't any mystery surrounding Rebecca's death . DW2 and the readers are also unaware that Maxim has committed a crime until almost the end of the novel.

Wednesday, October 14, 2009

Wondrous Words Wednesday!


Wondrous Words Wednesday is a weekly meme hosted by Bermudaonion's Weblog where we share new (to us) words that we’ve encountered in our reading. Feel free to join in the fun (please do!) Be sure to leave a link to your post over at Bermudaonion's Weblog!


All of my words come from Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier.

" Nature had come into her own again and, little by little, in her stealthy, insidious way had encroached upon the drive with long tenacious fingers."

Insidious {in-sid-ee-uhs} -adj.
1.intended to entrap or beguile.
2.stealthily treacherous or deceitful.
3.operating or proceeding in an inconspicuous or seemingly harmless way but actually with grave effect.



"I had ill-judged him, he was neither hard nor sardonic, he was already my friend of many years, the brother I had never possessed."

Sardonic {sahr-don-ik} -adj.
characterized by bitter or scornful derision; mocking; cynical; sneering.



"Mrs. Danvers never obtruded herself but I was aware of her continually."

Obtrude {uhb-trood} -verb
1. to thrust (something) towards or upon a person especially without warrant or invitation
2. to thrust forth; push out.
3. to thrust forward, especially unduly; intrude.

Monday, October 12, 2009

Romantic Movie

Feature Presentation...
MONDAY MOVIE MEME
This meme is hosted by Molly and Andy at The Bumbles Blog. Today's topic is True Romance in honor of Molly and Andy's Anniversary - HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!! They ask if you could live any movie's love story, which would it be?
I can't say that this is the love story I'd want for my life but I just love Annie Hall with Woody Allen and Diane Keaton.
In this movie the neurotic comedian, Alvy Singer tries to maintain a relationship with the ditsy but sweet Annie. We see the course of their relationship over many years including flashbacks and imaginary trips into each other's history which provides much of the humor in the film. Ultimately, they break up realizing they are too different. Annie moves to CA and moves in with a record company exec. played by Paul Simon. Alvy realizes how much he really loves her and tries to get her to move back to NY and move in with him. He does not prevail and writes a play about their relationship which ends with him winning Annie back.
Annie eventually returns to NY. They are both dating other people by then and are able to be friends.
I loved this move because it shows the quirky, wacky side of relationships, the awkwardness, the ridiculous arguments, the extent we all go too, good and bad to be accepted and to make relationships work. I'm also a big fan of Woody Allen's movies.
Another great romantic movie by Woody Allen is Manhattan with Muriel Hemingway.

Movie Monday!


Monday Movies is a fun event started by Sheri at A Novel Menagerie. If you have a movie you want to share or a TV show, write a post about it and then enter a link to your post in the Mr. Linky over at A Novel Menagerie!


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State of Play


2009 American Political Thriller

Starring: Russell Crowe, Rachel McAdams, Ben Affleck, Helen Mirren, Robin Wright Penn and Jason Bateman

Director: Kevin MacDonald

Time: 2 hours 10 minutes

This movie is an adaptation of the six-part British television serial, State of Play but condensed into 2 hours with the setting moved to Washington DC.


A young woman, Sonia, who is the lead researcher on the staff of Congressman Stephen Collins, is killed one morning on her way to work. Many question if it is a suicide especially when it is quickly uncovered that she was also the Congressman's mistress. The night before, though, a young thief is killed by a man carrying a briefcase and an attempt is made on the life of a pizza delivery man who supposedly witnessed the thief's death. Is it possible the 2 deaths and the attempted murder are connected?

Reporter Cal McCaffrey, an old friend of the Congressman, begins investigating Sonia's death with the help of blogger and reporter Delia Frye. They quickly discover intriguing and disturbing facts that lead them to unexpected places and truths they never imagined.

This is an exciting, captivating story that keeps your attention every minute. I don't want to give away any more of the movie. Trust me, it's better to watch it unfold in front of you. This movie commands your attention with an intriguing story and a fantastic cast that does a wonderful job. This is a fantastic movie!

Sunday, October 11, 2009

Sunday Salon, October 11th!



It's been a quiet week around here. The cats are behaving, for the most part. Little Betsy is finally being accepted by the rest of the feline lovelies. She's very friendly and wants most of her new brothers and sisters to like her. She's full of energy and anything that moves makes her jump with excitement. Some of our cats, the older ones, aren't used to that. It took Huxley and Daisy a little while to trust her. And poor Magoo! Betsy decided early on that she was going to befriend him. She follows him everywhere! At first he would run from her, but that only made her chase him. He's finally calmed down and realized she's not trying to harm him. Now they're buddies! Betsy doesn't like Dopey. But Dopey is an acquired taste and he has a terrible habit of growling at and chasing the other cats when he is in a bad mood which is often. So Dopey isn't very popular in this house. Hopefully, Dopey will grow out of being a bully soon!

We haven't taken the calico who lost her tail to the vet yet. We wanted to build up trust with Belle first.(we are calling her Belle because she is so pretty). We feed her everyday, sometimes twice a day and that gives us the opportunity to check on her tail. It isn't infected and doesn't seem to bother her. But we don't want to wait too much longer. We're hoping to bring her to the vet this week.

We have become good friends with some neighbors who also rescue cats, give homes to many and find homes for others. They live about 4 doors down from us and have 12 cats. They also feed several other stray cats who don't want homes. After comparing notes, we discovered that we both feed many of the same strays! What a coinkydink that we live so close to each other! They own an on-line bookstore called Run for Cover that sells a variety of genres such as history, philosophy, economics and some fiction. Please feel free to check them out. They're very nice people.

I'm finishing The Possibility of Everything, a memoir by Hope Edelman and reading Rebecca by Daphne du Maurier. I saw the movie recently and it's wonderful but I'd forgotten how much better the book is because you're privy to the thoughts of the second Mrs. de Winter! I am also reading Confections of a Closet Master Baker by Gesine Bullock-Prado which makes me laugh and also makes me hungry for cake, cookies and all sorts of sweet goodies! Gesine Bullock -Prado also has a blog - Confections. I have several reviews to write this week including my review for The Day the Falls Stood Still by Cathy Marie Buchanan.

The JETS play Miami tomorrow night. It should be a good game. I hope Sanchez is on his game tomorrow! The Giants trounced the poor Raiders today (sorry Lisa!).

I hope you're having a great weekend!

Amy

Saturday, October 10, 2009

Saturday Reader Confession!



This is a meme started by Ti at Book Chatter and other stuff. The idea behind it is:

1. Whenever you have something you want to share, just spill it (you know you want to). Just create a post of your own, link it to Book Chatter and other stuff and add your post link to Mister Linky there.

2. You don't have to post every Saturday. Post when you have something to share.

3. Posts can be rants about something you are reading, or a deep, dark secret. The post must relate to reading or blog reading in some way.

4. Posts can be as short or as long as you like and can include more than one topic. The goal is to get to know one another better.


Last week Ti posted in Book Chatter and Other Stuff about Commenting Etiquette and bloggers commenting in other blogs . My issue/question is sort of related to that since it is also about comments.

I am wondering whether or not bloggers who comment on posts in other blogs return to read the blog owner's comment responses to their comments. (jeez, this is a little confusing).

I am asking about this because I noticed when I started blogging that many bloggers respond to the comments left in their blogs by other bloggers. So I started to do the same in my blog. But I wondered if the bloggers who commented returned to read my response to their comment. I wasn't sure mostly because I don't always go back and see if bloggers responded to my comments since I don't always have the time and/or I don't always remember that I commented.

At one point, I wasn't able to get back to my blog until the next day. By then it seemed kind of late to respond to comments left by bloggers the day before. I felt bad thinking maybe some bloggers had come back to see if I responded and when I didn't for quite a while gave up! I responded anyway but wished I could get in touch and thank them for visiting my blog and commenting.

Then I discovered that I could also email the bloggers who commented in my blog. I started emailing some until I discovered that some bloggers have no reply emails or no emails connected to their blogs. So I went back to responding to bloggers comments in my blog but also emailing some bloggers who have email.

Is there a right or wrong way to do this? Am I missing something here? My blog isn't really new anymore (I started my blog almost 3 months ago) but I'm still getting used to how things are done in blog world. I plan to continue responding to comments in my blog and through email unless I'm completely missing the mark somehow or offending bloggers!

Ti, I hope I did this right and Thank you for this meme!

Amy

Friday, October 9, 2009

Friday Morning



To live content with small means; to seek elegance rather than luxury,

and refinement rather than fashion; to be worthy, not respectable,

and wealthy, not rich; to study hard, think quietly, talk gently, act frankly;

to listen to the stars and birds, to babes and sages, with open heart;

to bear on cheerfully, do all bravely, awaiting occasions, worry never;

in a word to, like the spiritual, unbidden and unconscious,

grow up through the common.

William Ellery Channing

I have always loved this quotation, it's always reminded me of what's really important in life and what brings true happiness and contenment.

I hope you have a happy Friday!

Amy